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(740225BG.BOM Lectures)

So because people are producing children against religious principles, therefore the whole world if full of VARNA-SANKARA, and there is no peace. So if you follow the principles of Bhagavad-gita, automatically there will be peace. Because every children, every boy, every girl will be sober, Krsna conscious. And therefore sastra prohibits, pita na sa syat, one should not become father; janani na sa syat, one should not become mother; gurur na sa syat, one should not become guru. One... In this way, there are... Why? Na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum. If you cannot stop the course of birth and death of your children, then don't become a father. This is called religious contraceptive. Remain without children. That is called dharmika life. If you can stop the birth and death of your children... Birth and death means... Because dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara. The real soul, the real life is within the body, while... And he's transmigrating. The... Transmigrating from one body to another. That is called death. And when he comes out from one, another body, that is called birth. So as soon as you get--klesada asa dehah--this body, full of miserable condition, then you again put into miserable condition of life. Therefore if you can stop your childrens' birth and death any more, then beget children. This is the shastric injunction. And if the father does not know how to stop his own birth and death, then what is the use of producing children? The father should be so sympathetic with the children, with the sons, that he must know what is the pains and pleasure of birth and death

(740225BG.BOM Lectures)

So as a father becomes perplexed when there are rascal sons, similarly, when there are increase of rascal population the world becomes overburdened. Therefore it is called... It is said in the Bhagavad-gita, VARNA-SANKARA. VARNA-SANKARA. Now the whole world is practically full of VARNA-SANKARA. First of all, there is no division of varnas. Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah. According to quality, it can be done. But people are not interested. They want hodge-podge. Therefore they are suffering. They cannot systematically do anything. So when the system of varna and asrama is destroyed... Just like in Western countries there is no such thing as varna and asrama. Therefore the VARNA-SANKARA, the hippies... That is VARNA-SANKARA. So VARNA-SANKARA... In the Bhagavad-gita... If the VARNA-SANKARA increases, strisu dustasu varna-sankaro jayate. When women become polluted, no fixed-up husband--that is pollution for woman, no CHASTE, no CHASTITY--then this VARNA-SANKARA will come out. And when the world is overpopulated by VARNA-SANKARA, it will become a burden. Therefore it so became, atheist, VARNA-SANKARA, demons. So it was unbearable by the earthly planet. And it is said, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, tadatmanam srjamy aham. Therefore mother earth went to appeal, "Please come and save me. I am very much overburdened." Therefore it is said, bharavataranaya: "diminish."

(741014SB.BOM Lectures)

That is Malthus's theory also, that as soon as there is overpopulation, there must be something disturbance, war, pestilence, epidemic, and finished, finished. The extra population, unnecessary. VARNA-SANKARA. They are called VARNA-SANKARA. VARNA-SANKARA... Because by nature there must be brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, by nature. That should be organized. Head is head, tail is tail, not that head, tail, everything is one. That is called VARNA-SANKARA. Krsna, Arjuna has argued that if the family members... If the woman becomes widow, then there will be VARNA-SANKARA population. VARNA-SANKARA population means a population who cannot say who is his father. That is VARNA-SANKARA. Or which caste does he belong, what is his father, what is his family. No, nothing, no information. That is called VARNA-SANKARA. So when the VARNA-SANKARA population increases, then the whole world becomes hell

(740109SB.LA Lectures)

If one is interested to know that science, then it is necessary to approach Just like Arjuna was busy, perturbed that he has to fight with his relatives, the other side, and they will be killed. And he was presenting so many problems that, If I kill my brothers, my sister-in-laws will become widow and they will be polluted, and there will be VARNA-SANKARA generation, then the whole world will be hell. In this way he was thinking, the immediate material problems, but when, after arguing with Krsna, he could not find out any solution, then Arjuna submitted to Krsna, sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam. "My dear Krsna, now I don't want to talk with you as friend, because friendly talk, the talking will be very much, but there will be no benefit."

(741128SB.BOM Lectures)

This person who is born in the sva-paca family, candala family, he is called papa-yoni. Yoni means mother, and bija means father. Bija may be nice, but if the yoni is not nice, that is called VARNA-SANKARA. These are the things. Yatha bijam tatha yoni. Therefore they must be equally qualified. Anyway, so papa-yoni, born in the womb of a low-class yoni. But he can be trained. How? Mam hi partha vyapasritya. If he takes to Krsna consciousness, then he can be trained. There is no harm. Mam hi... Krsna says, mam hi partha vyapasritya.

761105SB.VRN Lecture

When there are VARNA-SANKARA the whole world becomes hell. This is described in the Bhagavad-gita. So the life of austerity begins from the life of celibacy, brahmacarya. So brahmacarya, the descriptions are given here, how you can execute brahmacari life. You cannot think of sex life, you cannot talk of sex life, you cannot whisper about sex life. There are eight types of different regulation to stop sex life. But these things are very difficult in this age. Therefore we have simply summarized that don't have sex life beyond the married life. That is not good.

(710725SB.NY Lectures)

wives will be widowed and they'll be polluted? And as soon as they'll be polluted, there will be VARNA-SANKARA." VARNA-SANKARA, the practical example of VARNA-SANKARA is the hippies in your country: no caste, no creed, neither useful for the material world, neither useful for the spiritual. That is called VARNA-SANKARA. Then he said, "My...," Arjuna... Strisu dustasu VARNA-SANKARA (indistinct). "My dear Krsna, You are asking me to kill my... There will be widow, and they'll be polluted, and there'll be VARNA-SANKARA, and (indistinct), and when there'll be VARNA-SANKARA, then the whole world will be hell. It will be no more suitable for habitation of gentlemen. Finished."

Therefore in the Vedic civilization two things are very much stressed: to teach the man from childhood how to become expert in sad-acara, and woman trained up how to become CHASTE. So this CHASTE woman and this sad-acara, brahmana, ideal is brahmana, he'll become married. Then there will be peace, there will be progress, there will be peace in the society, peace in the family. There is a poetry in English, "Society, friendship and love, divine (indistinct)." But that society is not this society. If we become husband of the prostitute, no, that is not possible.

(760525SB.HON Lecture)

So Prahlada Maharaja recommends that from childhood this should be instructed. Because nobody is caring to teach this science of God from childhood. Therefore the present population, Godless population is the cause of all disturbances. In the Bhagavad-gita you'll find VARNA-SANKARA. VARNA-SANKARA means population, unwanted population. What is the use of this population? Simply for living? The Bhagavata says does the tree not live? The tree also lives for thousands of years. So do you mean to say living is very important thing? No. There are many trees they are living for thousands of years. So what is the value of living? If you say, "Oh, the tree lives, but it cannot breathe." Breathing. The Bhagavata says the bellow, it breathes very nicely. "Well, the bellow can breathe, but it cannot eat." "Oh, the dogs and hogs, they do not eat?" There are so many questions and answers in the Bhagavata. But actually, population, important population means who are conversant with the science of God. That is important population. Otherwise, what is the use of living? Sankaracarya lived for 32 years, and Lord Jesus Christ, I think, he also lived similarly. Lord Caitanya lived for 48 years. But their philosophy and God consciousness is so important, they are still living. Kalpante sthayina gunah. Canakya Pandita said, ayusah ksana vidyanti. Ayusah ksana vidyanti. Ayusah means this duration of life, it can be finished at any moment, but kalpante sthayina gunah. But if you are a qualified man then your qualities will be remembered for many, many thousands of years. Therefore live for the best qualities, to acquire the best qualities, God consciousness or Krsna consciousness

(680508SB.BOS Lecture)

Therefore the real aim of life, how to get out of this bhavarnava, nescience, that is the aim of life. If we remain again like the monkeys and cats and dogs, eating, sleeping, mating, and dancing, that is not very responsible life. Every man should be responsible. That is Vedic culture, to create responsible man, not VARNA-SANKARA. Therefore Arjuna was very much afraid that "After war the women will be widows, they will be polluted, and VARNA-SANKARA population will come out." Actually that is the fact. After the last war the hippies have come out all over the world. This is the fact.

(760413SB.BOM Lectures)

Grhastha life, householder life, is meant for begetting nice children. If there are Krsna conscious children in the society, there will be no disturbance. According to Vedic system, the population is divided into two divisions. Illegitimate sons are called VARNA-SANKARA. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said that when the population becomes VARNA-SANKARA, the whole social situation becomes hellish. Actually that is the fact. So one should be very careful to beget nice children so that society, social order, political order will be calm, quiet, peaceful. That is the idea of grhastha life. And many devotees... There are twelve selected personalities who are considered to be the authority of this Krsna consciousness movement. Out of twelve authorities, seven authorities were all grhasthas, householders. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's associates, Nityananda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, Gadadhara, and Srivasa, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu Himself, they were all householders. So it is not that simply sannyasi or brahmacari can realize Krsna consciousness and not the householders. No.

The Vedic civilization is varnasrama-dharma. If the varnasrama-dharma is not properly protected, then there will be population who are called VARNA-SANKARA, mixed population. Brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra--that is the natural division. The society must be divided... Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah. (aside:) There is no need. The natural division... Just like you have got natural division in your body: the head, the arms, the belly and the legs, similarly, social divisions, there is. Some of them are very intelligent men, class of men, and some of them are martial-spirited persons, and some of them are interested in trades and industry, and some of them are interested only for filling up the belly. So this is natural division

So the precaution was to stop VARNA-SANKARA. VARNA-SANKARA means, I mean to say, chaotic condition of these four classes of men

(740606LE.GEN Lectures)

Their provision for their maintenance is already there, made by God. So there is no question of overpopulation. The question is VARNA-SANKARA. VARNA-SANKARA, that is the problem. So the human life is meant for systematic organization of spiritual realization. That is human life.

(740606LE.GEN Lectures)

So Krsna, or God, claims that He is the seed-giving father of all these living entities. So as the father makes provision for maintenance of the sons and children, so God is not incapable. He has made provision for all these living entities. But when we mismanage, we become VARNA-SANKARA, there is calamity. So far I have studied--I am touring all over the world--there are enough place uncultivated. Especially I have seen in Australia and Africa, there is enough place that is not being utilized. In India also, there are enough places still. That is not being utilized. And Bhagavad-gita says, annad bhavanti bhutani. The maintenance of the living entities--bhutani means living entities--can be done by production of food grains. Annad bhavanti bhutani. Then parjanyad anna-sambhavah. And then it is said, parjanyad anna-sambhavah, yajnad bhavati parjanyo yajnah karma-samudbhavam. This formula is given in the Bhagavad-gita, that living entities, it doesn't matter whether animal or men, they are flourished, they are raised very nicely, provided there is anna. Anna means food grain. So we can produce enough quantity of food grains all over the world. And if we actually produce food grains, we can feed ten times of the population which are at present. But unfortunately, we are not producing food grains. That is the problem. It is not the problem of overpopulation. It is the problem that we are not producing food grains. This is clearly stated, that unless you have sufficient food grains, how you can maintain? They have taken a policy that they would not... Especially in the Western countries, I see that they will not produce food. They will raise some cattles and send them to the slaughterhouse for eating. This policy is going on. And this is not a very good policy. You produce your food grain. Why you should kill the innocent animals and eat them? So on account of these sinful activities, according to Vedic civlization, there are four kinds of sinful activities. One sinful activity is illegitimate, illicit sex life. According to Vedic civilization, without marriage, no sex life is allowed. Therefore marriage is compulsory. In every human society, there is marriage. But according to Vedic civilization, marriage is compulsory, samskara. So therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, strisu dustasu varsneya jayate VARNA-SANKARAh. If the women are not married, then VARNA-SANKARA population will increase. It is said. And as soon as there is VARNA-SANKARA population, the whole world will be in chaotic condition.

(740606LE.GEN Lectures)

Problem is created due to bad children. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. VARNA-SANKARA. So if there are good children, there is no problem. Even in this material world, everything will become happy. The basic principle of Vedic civilization is to create good children. All the rules and regulations, everything is there just to create good children. In the first chapter of Bhagavad-gita these things are described very nicely by Arjuna. There are many purificatory processes to create a good child. A human being is not meant for creating offspring like cats and dogs. They must produce very good child. That is Vedic civilization. Good child means Krsna conscious child. That's all. Yes. So we are trying to turn these children of the Western world, good children. And people should cooperate with us, this movement. We are taking care of the children, especially young boys and girls who are coming, and we are taking care of them very nicely. Sometimes we are getting them married also, to make their life very peaceful and intelligent and spiritually advanced and make a solution of life. So people should come forward to cooperate with this movement.

(690909rc.ham Conversations)

Pusta-krsna: In the Bhagavatam, you said that by the age of sixteen, a girl should be married, or twenty-four for a man. We were just reading that...

Prabhupada: That is the maximum.

Pusta-krsna: We were just reading that.

Prabhupada: The point is that supposing this twenty to thirty-six years is nice age... For women. But before twenty years, she is sacked, and her health is broken. What she'll produce, children? Because this is... The girls, from twelve years, thirteen years, nowadays, they begin sex.

Pusta-krsna: That's true.

Prabhupada: Is it not?

Pusta-krsna: That's true.

Prabhupada: So before she reaches twenty years, twenty times she must have taken contraceptive method. And that means her health is ruined. What she'll produce? They are given in the schools, colleges, contraceptive tablets. And they are prohibiting, "Don't get child before twenty years." What is this nonsense? This is the difficulty. All rascals, they have taken leadership. Women should, should be allowed to beget children as soon as they're able. But as soon as the pregnancy is there, there should not be any sex life. They have got sex life in pregnancy also. So many things, we have... We can guide them all, all these rascals. From sastra, we can guide them. Therefore immediately human society, a class of men who are fully conversant with the Vedic conclusion required to guide these rascals, socially, politically, in every respect.

Guru Gauranga: They say that they have made studies, Srila Prabhupada...

Prabhupada: Eh?

Guru Gauranga: They have made studies and that if a woman gives birth at the age less than twenty there are more chances that she die according to their statistics.

Prabhupada: Their statistics in the western world... Inductive knowledge is always imperfect. They have not seen in India. My wife gave birth at the age of fourteen years. She is still living. She is ten years younger than me. So sixty-eight, sixty-nine, she is. She gave birth child at the age of fourteen. In 1918 I was married, and 1921 she gave birth the child, my first son. And she was never unhealthy; neither she had to go to the hospital for maternity hell. Natural delivery of child. Hare Krsna. This illicit sex, even with wife... If sex life is indulged after the period of menstruation, that is also illicit sex. There are so many rules and regulations about sex life in Vedic culture. That is real use of sex life. In the Bhagavad-gita, sex life, He says that dharmaviruddhah kamo 'smi. "Sex life which is under regulative principle of the Vedic knowledge," Krsna says, "I am that sex life. I am that sex life." And beyond that, that is illicit sex life. And yesterday I was reading that dharma... When there is irreligious sex, then it increases VARNA-SANKARA, unwanted population. So the modern civilization, they're letting loose the women for prostitution, and they want nice children. That is not possible. Why this park is kept like this?

Guru Gauranga: It's more of a forest, I think.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Guru Gauranga: But this is surprising. Generally, they cut.

Nitai: In Los Angeles, you were saying about the system of monogamy, how in this way most of the women are left unmarried.

Prabhupada: Yes. That is prostitution. If a man... First of all, the problem is... That they do not know, that they should produce sufficient food grains. These, all these contraceptive methods, this and that, monogamy, they are trying for checking population. Is it not?

Pusta-krsna: Yes.

Prabhupada: The basic principle is to check population. Now, if they follow the Vedic principles, automatically the population is checked. Just like brahmacari. So if the, both the boys and girls remain brahmacari, then where is the unwanted population? Where is the question of this contraceptive method?

Nitai: No need.

(740608mw.gen Conversations)

Prabhupada: They are not old, but they have no intelligence. The hippie life spoiled them. VARNA-SANKARA. Hippies means VARNA-SANKARA. No father, no mother, some are only children, doing irresponsible everything, making the whole situation hellish. How Bhagavata predicted long hair? That is very astonishing. This confirms the Bhagavata authority.

(770423rc.bom Conversation)

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