Prabhupada: That means they are not Christians.

Guest (3): That's right.

Prabhupada: So then where is Christian?

Guest (3): Well, the Christian world that the majority of the people think is...

Prabhupada: Majority is not the calculation. Minority. If one person carries out the order of Christ, then he is Christian.

Guest (3): Exactly.

Prabhupada: Otherwise they are not Christians.

Guest (3): That's right. But I just wanted to say one thing...

Prabhupada: Our principle is that if one person carries out the order of God, he is actually the prophet. If he does not carry out--simply by dress he is prophet--it is useless.

Guest (3): I see. All right. We have a little different feeling about that.

Prabhupada: Why it should be different?

Guest (3): Well, we would..

Prabhupada: My point is.... Just like the two points here: CHASTITY and nonviolence. But this is not being carried out.

Guest (3): Well, we agree.

Prabhupada: Then where is the prophet and where is the followers?

Guest (3): Well, see, the prophet is teaching the people about this and teaching them to live it.

Prabhupada: That means people are not obeying the prophet.

Guest (3): Well, people are. We are

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Condemned like anything. And she was laughing. She knew that "I have not changed my husband. A change of body." Then she said, "My dear father, don't be angry. He's your real son-in-law. He has become now young by treatment." Then he was very pleased and embraced his daughter, that "You are so nice." This is Vedic civilization. Even one has got old, going to die husband, she cannot change. This is the CHASTITY.

Hari-sauri: Once a woman was married, then that was finished. No connection with another man.

Prabhupada: No, no. That one marriage is sufficient. She must remain very faithful to her husband, CHASTE. That is wanted. Not that "I do not like this husband. I'll change." That is not wanted.

Hari-sauri: That's Western mentality.

Prabhupada: Whatever your father and mother has chosen, that's all. He's your worshipable husband. This is the... This point I wanted to bring. And her father was surprised. "How is that? I got you married with an old man? Somehow or other, circumstances I was obliged. How is that you have picked up one young man?" He chastised her like anything. Then when he came to understand that the same old man has become now young man by medical treatment, then he was satisfied. So you cannot change. I have seen it. One, my father's friend, he was very old man. My father was also... He was at that time not less than sixty-five. But his wife died, and he was married with another young girl. But his sister forced him to marry. That "Unless you marry, who will look after you? You have no children." But I have seen that young woman who was married with that gentleman... In our childhood we used to called her didi. Didi means elder sister. So the relationship was very thick and thin. But that old man, not less than sixty-five, and this young woman, utmost twenty to twenty-five. She was serving the husband like anything. We have seen it. There is no question of changing or being dissatisfied.

Hari-sauri: Now they bring them up to be independent.

Prabhupada: It is a question of culture. Culture. She was king's daughter, royal, and married her with a muni, old, rotten. Older than me. All the skin has become slackened. But still she was serving him just like worshipable lord. The age difference is great-grandfather and great-granddaughter. You'll find in Bhagavatam. Lord Siva, he could not construct even a house. He was living underneath a tree. And his wife, Durga, srsti-sthiti-pralaya-sadhana-saktir eka. She can create a new world, so powerful, Durga. She's living with her husband underneath a tree. Never claims, "My dear husband, if you cannot, I can make one." There is a story about that. That, "People criticize us. All right, let us have some house." So Lord Siva, Durga, both of them capable to do anything. So they constructed a very nice gold house. "Now we shall live." So there is new house entering ceremony. So one Gargamuni was invited as brahmana. Many other brahmanas. So they began to eat so much... That story I'm now forgetting. Then whatever stock they have finished, when, after eating, when they wanted, "Give us daksina." Because after eating there is... So Lord Siva, where shall I get everything? I have finished." Then they became puzzled what to do. So Lord Siva said, "All right, you take this house." Again they became underneath a tree. (laughs) "All right, as daksina you take this house. Don't bother." Their house entrance ceremony was there. As a result of that ceremony they became again underneath a tree.

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in the last ten years there's been no divorce. They don't allow it. And CHASTITY of the woman was still very greatly appreciated too.

Prabhupada: Woman infidel, they are stoned among the Muhammadans. Christian also. "You have done..." Woman proved unCHASTE, she was punished. Is it not? The public would stone and kill. You know that punishment? Stoning?

Hari-sauri: Stoning, yes. It's mentioned a lot in early Christian times. They used to stone.

Prabhupada: Everyone will throw a stone. Very tortuous death, stoning.

Hari-sauri: I remember my auntie's mother. She was Italian, and she used to wear black all the time. Just like the widows here, they wear white, so she was wearing black. She was a widow. So all the widows, even I saw some young women...

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