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I'll give it a shot. Traditional (19th cent.) Crow panel leggings typically had the vertical stripes centered on the front and back of the panel, with the third set of stripes on the inside (on the fold) of the panel. Having two sets of vertical stripes on the front is not typical

Also, a very common feature of traditional Crow leggings is that the binding on the flaps only goes about 3/4 of the way up each flap. Usually the binding is in a darker color of cloth, often wool. White binding that encloses both flaps, the top leg opening and the ankle opening is not typical.

Crow leggings were typically made from striped blankets with the stripes left at the top, and less often from white selvage cloth.

Last, Crow leggings were often closed with spaced tie thongs, but lacing with a wide white thong (if that's what it is) is not typical.

Those are some differences I see. But whether these are newer or older or who made them I have no idea.

ac

Louie--Cree. Assiniboine, Blackfoot, Sarsi all wore panel leggings, as did folks at both Ft. Belknap and Ft Peck. And Shoshone and Bannock.

ac

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Louie Garcia

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Jan 31 at 10:42 PM

I would like to add my two cents too.

These leggings were worn by the Plateau tribes, Crow and their relatives the Hidatsa at Ft. Berthold.

I was so surprised when I was shown family photographs of the Hidatsa, someone not knowing the origin would identify the individuals (male and female) as Crow.

Any others?

LouieG

Igor,

Allen’s reply was right on! I’ll add a few thoughts. The panels should go right to the bottom, right up against the bottom edge binding, with no blue blanket, or a very narrow bit, showing between. The panels appear to be rectangular, rather than trapezoidal. No question in my mind that these are not old panel leggings.

Bill

D SAGER

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Today at 1:21 AM

......and hobbyists....which these leggings seem to be.

Dave (the synic)

D SAGER

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Today at 1:27 AM

Probably Ft. Peck too.

Dave S

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Subject: RE: [PlainsIndianSeminartwo] Crow Leggins once more.

AC:

You forgot the Yanktonai (Nakota) at Standing Rock (Cannonball / Shields, ND), who also wore Panel leggings, no doubt received as gifts from Ft. Berthold whom they are intermarried.

There take that ha-ha.

LouieG

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Today at 2:34 AM

Yes, all those tribes (and maybe more) wore panel leggings, BUT the characteristics that Allen and I described are typical of leggings made and worn by the Crow in the late 19^th and early 20^th century. Sure, Crow pairs turn up in collections and old photos from here and there, but those that have the specific characteristics we described I believe are of Crow origin. Some people with close contact with the Crow, Shoshone for example, may have made some like this.

Usually medium blue blanket material with usually multiple narrow black stripes near the top. There were a few red leggings ones, and some with a single broad, black stripe. Red Crow leggings are very rare.

Red trapezoidal usually stroud panels (or blue if on red leggings) beaded after sewing on the leggings. Not beaded before or with inserted cloth between stripes. Usually single lane white borders all around the panel. A very few had 2 lanes with a simple design on the outer border lane.

Beaded stripes on panels centered on front and back, composed of 2 or three narrow, separated lanes. The designs were in three parts, the upper and lower parts plain, usually light blue, and the center elaborated with designs in contrasting colors, usually simple.

There is usually another stripe on the center of the panel (the folded edge), sometimes duplicating the front and back stripes, but more often a single lane. Sometimes this center design is of two crosses, one above the other, rather than a vertical lane. There are some other variant designs (horse tracks, etc.) forming the central stripe..

The leggings are edged with a cloth strip binding the lower edge and both flaps, often only part way up the flap. The cloth binding on the edge below the panels is sometimes of a contrasting color.

There is almost always a triangular “horse’s head” design on the back side above the panel. Like the panel, the cloth is sewn on before beading. There is a single lane of white beads surrounding the triangle, and 3 small triangles beaded on the legging, attached to the three corners. The horse’s head is often decorated with a horizontal stripe of contrasting color across near the top (the browband of the bridle?). There is sometimes another small triangle attached to the bottom edge of the browband.

The side seam is usually a row of buckskin ties, with the ends hanging on the back side.

Non-Crow panel leggings typically have different characteristics. Panels beaded before attaching to the legging. Contasting cloth inserts between the stripes. Stripes, usually all matching, of 3 vertical contiguous lanes, the outer 2 matching one another. Often complex designs on the vertical stripes. Seldom made of cloth with narrow black stripes. Legging cloth of many colors, not just blue. Seldom with horse’s head design.

My 2 bits worth??

Bill

Bill Holm

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Today at 2:50 AM

A change of confusing wording in the last paragraph.

Non-Crow panel leggings typically have different characteristics. Panels beaded before attaching to the legging. Contasting cloth inserts between the stripes Three matching stripes, each of three vertical contiguous lanes, the outer 2 matching one another. Often complex designs on the vertical stripes. Seldom made of cloth with narrow black stripes. Legging cloth of many colors, not just blue. Seldom with horse’s head design.

Bill

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Today at 4:13 AM

Bill,

Good description. I'm going to download and print it for my ethnology files.

Dave

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