13 июня в 5:48
Can this be correct that Russia have sent tanks into Ukraine?
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/world/europe/ukraine-russia-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Ukrainian official: Russian tanks have entered the country
Three Russian tanks and other military vehicles crossed the border into Ukraine...
cnn.com
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Yekaterina Belaqa Who is reliable? It is information war. Just look in current situation: Russia has large amount of military power. It is not only tanks, it is much more, MUCH MORE. If Russia really wanted to fight, to intervent, she would have done it shortly. What...Еще
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Sverre G Harkestad Yes, and there never was Russian soldiers on the Crimea eiter. And the weapons used by the separatis are quote Putin for sale in any store in Russia and You do not need an ID to buy the newest Russian weapons.
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Sverre G Harkestad And always blame the US when you have no good cause.
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Yekaterina Belaqa I am not from Russia and have never tried to buy weapon there, but I know that to buy any weapon you do need to have policy permission for it. BTW "separatists" (I can call people who protect themselves such political word) used weapon which was left from USSR time. They even took tanks from monuments. Russian soldier were in Crimea much earlier that conflict began, because of the rented fleet.
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Sverre G Harkestad I just repeated what Putin said about soldiers on Crimea. Are You saying that Putin is laying?
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Sverre G Harkestad PS! The soldiers that was not "SOLDIERS" and the they was Russian soldiers after all.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Blame the USA... Can I do another? Can you see other reason? Tell, please. I don't see them. It is simple queue of wars in world crated by the USA. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Afganistan, Georgia...
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Sverre G Harkestad So because of the US Russia can do whatever they want to - just blame the US. A very stupid rule. Georgia x 2 blame it on Russia, Moldova blame it on Russia. Ukraine blame it on Russia. Dagestan blame it on Russia. Tjetjenia x 2 blame it on Russia. Tadsjikistan blame it on Russia. Ingutsjetia blame it on Russia and so on.
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Sverre G Harkestad Not forget the mass murder in Syria is actually Russias fault.
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Ron Monks Anyone who truly wants peace in Eastern Ukraine needs to stop believing the stupid fake stories, staged events, and photoshopped 'proof' being put out by Russian Propagandists.
There's good probability, Katya is one of the thousands of the paid troll...Еще
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Yekaterina Belaqa Vietnam, Japan...
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Ron Monks Yep, troll 100%
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Ron Monks Delete her Russ, she's here to make money and support the Russian terrorists.
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Ron Monks Back to the topic. It has been determine these three T-64 tanks were part of nine such Russian tanks taken out of mothballs and delivered from Rostov to The terrorists in Ukraine. Civilian satellites have confirmed this.
Why T64s? Because the are in t...Еще
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Sverre G Harkestad Maybe You should read some history Yekaterina? Japan actually went to war with the USA themselves. Not to forget UK, China and the Soviet Union. If You like to continue this list You will find out that Russia/Soviet Union have attacked a lot more count...Еще
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Yekaterina Belaqa Putin's propaganda... Russia do whatever they want to... So, what is Russia doing? Waiting? Ignoring. Do not react, whereas Russian Embassy stormed, whereas Ukranians, Russians and other people are murdered. It is scary, it is hurts. The conflict is in Ukraine- between East and West. Russia is not involved- however I think she should have protect people.
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Yekaterina Belaqa I am from Kazakhstan. It is easy to say she is a troll
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Yekaterina Belaqa I do know history, I meant using nuclear weapon against two peaceful cities in Japan.
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Sverre G Harkestad Its easy to see that Putin and Russia is the ones that try to destroy Ukraine also
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Yekaterina Belaqa I do not say Russia is saint. Russia do a lot of harm things. I do not deny it, do I?
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Sverre G Harkestad It was a calculation - to invade Japan would have meant maybe more than 500.000 dead allied soldiers and maybe millions of dead Japaneese people. So what would have been woorse?
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Ron Monks Most of the trolls are Russians living outside Russia. They all repeat the same rehearsed lines - Talk about the US involvement in past wars, deny the obvious involvement of Russia- don't mention Crimea, etc., etc.
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Sverre G Harkestad So why blame the US for what Russia do? Why say because US do so Russia can do so also. Why accept that Russia destroy Ukraine just because You don't like The US.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Mr. Monks, I 've just written about it higher - what is three tanks? It is nothing compare with what Russia really has. Btw, it seems that you are going to discuss my personalities more that question.
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Ron Monks It's purely emotional Sverre. Most of the trolls are female. I did find one guy in the Caucuses who said he was gay and America is evil (Hiroshima, etc.,). Then the next day he asked for my help immigrating to America. Classic.
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Yekaterina Belaqa I even didn't have a thought about trolls.Looks like you know a lot about how it works. Maybe you are one of them. I see you just protect US, compare it with Russia, do not answer on my straight questions, when I ask you to explain your points about Russian actions.do not care about question which was discussed.
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Ron Monks Of course Putin will not send his T-72s with tricolor banners. It would cause NATO to enter the war. Putin fears NATO. It's why he pulled back and didn't continue to Tblisi during he last adventure. NATO's airpower would wipe out Russia's armor within days if not hours.
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Sverre G Harkestad Yekaterina, You think it is okay that Russia go into Ukraine with Tanks just because Russia have many more tanks and don't go in with all of them?
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Yekaterina Belaqa Obviously, Russia's airpower as well as NATO can do it. But you 've just said that America (NATO) will intervent into Ukraine. However it will broke UN convention about nation-state independent position.
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Ron Monks Knowing you get paid for this, I won't engage with you further, And if you can read, I am not defending anyone but Ukraine which is where I live.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Severe, I do not think it is Russian tanks. It might looks like Russian and even be from Russia, but not sent by official government. For what? Do you remmeber there was UN helicopter in Ukraine- but it wasn't sent by UN as well.
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Ron Monks Unlike in Grorgia, there is the Budapest agreement to protect Ukraine. The invasion of Ukraine is an existential threat to the Baltics, Poland and Romania. Putin knows he cannot openly invade Ukraine so he does it in disguise. You seem to be the only one he's fooling, however..
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Ron Monks katya, the UN helicopter photo was from two years ago in Sierra Leone.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Ron, I Hope for the peace in Ukraine with all my heart and soul. I have never been paid for thinking and caring about people. I am a student from Kazakhstan, who was watching all conflict with pain.
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Sverre G Harkestad The UN helicopter fake made by fairytale RT You mean Yekaterina?:-)
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Sverre G Harkestad Good chance the tanks are from Russia - just like the occupants on Crimea was from Russia. But we should not forget taht anyone can buy tanks and weapons in Russia everywhere without an ID again a qoute from Putin:D
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Yekaterina Belaqa It is difficult to build a dialog when we have so different bases of knowledge about situation. You said "occupants". I know that Crimeans by themselves organized referendum and asked about unification with Russian. And active president of Ukraine on those moment Yanukovich also asked Putin about help. I do not see occupation.
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Yekaterina Belaqa And thanks goodness Russia save Crimea, otherwise it would share genocide as West Ukraine.
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Sverre G Harkestad How can You call it anything else than an occupation when foreign troops take control and fake the election? An no one on the Crimea had problems before the Russians took control. Now the Tatars and Ukrains are been forced out of the Iland. They also took control over the media and shoot after OSSE people. They beat up media people and killed 4 unarmed Ukraine soldiers.
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Yekaterina Belaqa It is unthinkable that Russia try ti destroy Ukraine. It is one nation above all. They are brothers.
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Sverre G Harkestad The genocide take place on the Crimea as we speak. Tatras and Ukraines are beeing forced away, properties stolen. There was never a treat of a genocide in Crimea before the Russians took control and there was never any risk of that in the east Ukraine before Russia sent in people to destabilize Ukraine. You must be blind and deaf not to get the reality of the situation.
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Sverre G Harkestad Russia have destroyed a lot of nations why not Ukraine.
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Ron Monks http://www.stopfake.org/
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Sverre G Harkestad I think what You hope for Yekaterina is that the Ukraines get killed and Russia take over the country.
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Ron Monks There was be er even a threat to people in Crimea easter I have friends here in Odesa who have family in Donetsk. There was never a problem there - until Putin sent his undercover agents there to rake over the local governments.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Again I faced with such phenomena as information war. OSCE. I 've just written about it on my status - cite the American scientist Samuel Huntington. He said that all international organization either it UN Council, OSCE, IMF or WB are created to serve...Еще
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Yekaterina Belaqa Use.
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Ron Monks No, Sverre G Harkestad i din't believe she wants that. She's bot thinking about the consequences - just her 300 Rubles per comment.
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Sverre G Harkestad Sounds correct Ron Monks:-)
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Sverre G Harkestad Yeah Yekaterina Belaqa whenever Russia do something wrong -blame the west and the USA then everything Russia do is for the greater good for mankind and never for Putin and his Oligarfriends pocket. How blind can You be?
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Ron Monks Katya. Better to not listen to news reports or if you do understand there is a great chance of it being untrue. But how about listening to a man who knows exactly what's happening a former Putin adviser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ISQpbfoBI
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Yekaterina Belaqa I repeat - I've never said Russia is saint, Mr. G Harkestad, neither is Mr. Putin. However I on side of Russia in this particular situation.
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Yekaterina Belaqa Mr. Monks, I am listening this video, and think it is interesting, but it as much trustful as usual news for me.
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Yekaterina Belaqa I studied Media and know how does it work.
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Yekaterina Belaqa May I wonder Mr Monks, aginst who Did Kiev send his troops in the East of the country, in your opinion?
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